First information about conflict resolution - Revision history

Diana at 10:10, 27 November 2009

Diana — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:10:57 GMT

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	* Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.		* Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.

-	Due to these decisions, a new reassessment ~~may have~~ to be performed.	+	Due to these decisions, a new reassessment had to be performed.

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Diana at 12:42, 18 June 2009

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:42:33 GMT

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	** people who wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry		** people who wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry
	** people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives		** people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives
-		+	* If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES
-	# If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES	+	* Still although it can be metonymically used for the places where people were imprisoned and most of them were above the Arctic, Gulag was not considered a place.
-		+	* Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.
-	# Still although it can be metonymically used for the places where people were imprisoned and most of them were above the Arctic, Gulag was not considered a place.	+
-		+
-	# Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.	+

	Due to these decisions, a new reassessment may have to be performed.		Due to these decisions, a new reassessment may have to be performed.

	[http://www.linguateca.pt/GikiCLEF/index.php/Main_Page Back to the main page]		[http://www.linguateca.pt/GikiCLEF/index.php/Main_Page Back to the main page]

Diana at 12:42, 18 June 2009

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:42:00 GMT

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	And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution, but which may still have to be revised by the assessors group:		And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution, but which may still have to be revised by the assessors group:

-	# If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"	+	* If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"
-		+	* If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all
-	# If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all	+	** speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES
-	* speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES	+	** studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES
-	* studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES	+	** if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES
-	* if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES	+	* Very slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a
-		+	** eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)
-	# Very slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a	+	** Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)
-	* eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)	+	** people who wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry
-	* Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)	+	** people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives
-	* people who wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry	+
-	* people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives	+

	# If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES		# If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES

Diana at 12:40, 18 June 2009

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:40:16 GMT

Diana at 12:34, 18 June 2009

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:34:57 GMT

Diana at 12:33, 18 June 2009

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:33:13 GMT

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-	Follows ow the conflict resolution was done, and first impressions after looking at the conflicts as far as the very same answer in the same language and with the same justification is concerned.	+	Follows how the (first) conflict resolution was done, and first impressions after looking at the conflicts as far as the very same answer in the same language and with the same justification is concerned.

	We could identify four different cases		We could identify four different cases
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	* cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner		* cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner
	* cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.		* cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.
		+
		+	And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution:
		+
		+	1) If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"
		+
		+	2) If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all
		+	- speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES
		+	- studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES
		+	- if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES
		+
		+	3) very slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a
		+	- eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)
		+	- Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)
		+	- people wro wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry
		+	- people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives
		+
		+	4) If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES
		+
		+	5) Still although it can be metonymically used for the places where people were imprisoned and most of them were above the Arctic, Gulag was not considered a place.
		+
		+	6) Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.

Diana at 12:31, 18 June 2009

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:31:59 GMT

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-	~~How~~ the conflict resolution was done, and first impressions~~, follow~~.	+	Follows ow the conflict resolution was done, and first impressions after looking at the conflicts as far as the very same answer in the same language and with the same justification is concerned.

	We could identify four different cases		We could identify four different cases

-	- cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or information in the page not understood by a non-native speaker, but that leaves no doubt)	+	* cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or information in the page not understood by a non-native speaker, but that leaves no doubt)
-	- cases where we do not know where the values "correct" or "incorrect" come from, and have to check how people did that classification: did they really know, or just expected that the predetermined answers were absolutely correct -- the all and only? If they did, this must be revised :-(	+	* cases where we do not know where the values "correct" or "incorrect" come from, and have to check how people did that classification: did they really know, or just expected that the predetermined answers were absolutely correct -- the all and only? If they did, this must be revised :-(
-	- cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner	+	* cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner
-	- cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.	+	* cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.

Diana: New page: How the conflict resolution was done, and first impressions, follow. We could identify four different cases - cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or info...

Diana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:27:29 GMT

New page: How the conflict resolution was done, and first impressions, follow. We could identify four different cases - cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or info...

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How the conflict resolution was done, and first impressions, follow.

We could identify four different cases

- cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or information in the page not understood by a non-native speaker, but that leaves no doubt)
- cases where we do not know where the values "correct" or "incorrect" come from, and have to check how people did that classification: did they really know, or just expected that the predetermined answers were absolutely correct -- the all and only? If they did, this must be revised :-(
- cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner
- cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.

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-	Follows how the (first) conflict resolution was done~~, and first impressions after looking at the conflicts as far as the very same answer in the same language and with the same justification is concerned~~.	+	Follows how the (first) conflict resolution was done.

-	We could identify four different cases	+	The first impressions, after looking at the conflicts as far as the very same answer in the same language and with the same justification is concerned, was that we could identify four different cases:

-	* cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or information in the page not understood by a non-native speaker, but that leaves no doubt)	+	# cases where it is easy to decide who is right (such as type mismatch or information in the page not understood by a non-native speaker, but that leaves no doubt)
-	* cases where we do not know where the values "correct" or "incorrect" come from, and have to check how people did that classification: did they really know, or just expected that the predetermined answers were absolutely correct -- the all and only? If they did, this must be revised :-(	+	# cases where we do not know where the values "correct" or "incorrect" come from, and have to check how people did that classification: did they really know, or just expected that the predetermined answers were absolutely correct -- the all and only? If they did, this must be revised :-(
-	* cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner	+	# cases where there are genuine disagreements -- and these will be sent to the two or three parties involved, possibly also with copy to the topic owner
-	* cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.	+	# cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.

	And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution, but which may still have to be revised by the assessors group:		And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution, but which may still have to be revised by the assessors group:

-	1) If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"	+	# If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"

-	2) If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all	+	# If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all
	* speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES		* speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES
	* studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES		* studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES
	* if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES		* if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES

-	~~3) very~~ slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a	+	# Very slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a
	* eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)		* eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)
	* Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)		* Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)
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	* people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives		* people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives

-	4) If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES	+	# If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES

-	5) Still although it can be metonymically used for the places where people were imprisoned and most of them were above the Arctic, Gulag was not considered a place.	+	# Still although it can be metonymically used for the places where people were imprisoned and most of them were above the Arctic, Gulag was not considered a place.

-	6) Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.	+	# Also, fictional countries were not considered as correct for fictional works, even if they were created in a written fictional work.
		+
		+	Due to these decisions, a new reassessment may have to be performed.
		+
		+	[http://www.linguateca.pt/GikiCLEF/index.php/Main_Page Back to the main page]

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	* cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.		* cases where different language Wikipedias actually say different things, and so each answer has to be considered individually. This is strictly speaking not a conflict between assessors but between infromation sources, but we have to deal with this with special care.

-	And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution:	+	And these were the kind of decisions taken during conflict resolution, but which may still have to be revised by the assessors group:

	1) If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"		1) If the answer is contained in the question, it is considered incorrect, so Italy is not a fair answer to "List the Italian places"

	2) If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all		2) If there is principled disagreement about vague, complex categories and different people have strong reasons for disagreement, for GikiCLEF we accept the union of all
-	- speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES	+	* speaking/writing poets in other languages than Romanian are Romanian poets? YES
-	- studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES	+	* studying in a place, taking a short visit to another place and coming back in love to that place, does it qualify as a place where someone falls in love? YES
-	- if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES	+	* if a ciclist won the junior Tour de Flandres and then the adult one, is s/he considered a winner two times? YES

	3) very slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a		3) very slight differences which very strongly convey the probability of yes are accepted, because we would expect most people (except lawyers and logicians) to accept that a
-	- eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)	+	* eight thousanders accept a 50 m deviation (if a mountain is higher than 7950 m)
-	- Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)	+	* Norwegian musicians convicted for burning (even if it does not mention they burned churches)
-	- people ~~wro~~ wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry	+	* people who wrote ballads and published a lot of volumes of poetry
-	- people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives	+	* people who have two residences one in Switzerland and other somewhere else can be considered to have moved to Switzerland some time in their lives

	4) If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES		4) If two of three sisters died of tuberculosis and the third the cause of death is not certain, is "the sisters Bronte" correct? YES